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Jody Avirgan (30for30, FiveThirtyEight) hosts and produces some of the most popular podcasts around. He's also produced some unpopular podcasts. As podcasting has exploded, he's been surprised at how the core tenants of what make a good show remain the same. Here, he'll let you in on some secrets.

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Jody Avirgan

Jody Avirgan runs 30 for 30 Podcasts, part of ESPN Films. He also developed FiveThirtyEight Podcasts, where he continues to host the FiveThirtyEight elections podcast, beginning with the 2016 campaign. Prior to arriving at ESPN, he was a producer at WNYC radio, and has worked with shows such as On The Media, Marketplace, Freakonomics, and many more.